PSA: Pro life vs Pro choice and how to be respectful page 2
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Xxpuffish
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Xxpuffish
3 years, 10 months ago by Xxpuffish
&riley_fxX I completely agree I believe women should have power over their body and what they want to choose when I draw the line is when the baby is developed and has a beating heart, working lungs etc but the first comment in this forum like I understand where they’re coming from but some people don’t just mean to get pregnant and you have to understand there are a lot of women who have been raped or abused and it’s not their fault so honestly I’m half and half but I believe that it shouldn’t be an argument and that your beliefs are your beliefs and as long as you don’t force them in anyone they are valid for yourself
hummusboi
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3 years, 10 months ago by hummusboi
@loonybin brings up a great question. i myself am a trans man. i have a uterus, and i can still get pregnant even on hormones. i am not interested at all in having children, and i can't imagine the mental toll it would take on me if i carried a child. the thought of it disgusts me because i hate the fact that i have a uterus (and a female body in general). i would terminate because i can't put myself through that. i am very much pro-choice. what i say is "if you don't want an abortion, don't get one". i think if someone ever needs that resource, they should have access to it.
Mirabelle_
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3 years, 10 months ago by Mirabelle_
Pro life there is no discussion about it. I respect your opinion even if I disagree with it though.
workmanha
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3 years, 10 months ago by workmanha
Just starting out with...I fully respect anyone's decisions even if I don't agree with them 🙂

So I am pro-life because as a lot of you have been saying it is a living child inside of you that loves you and depends on you. Also lets just stop and think about what a great blessing it is for women to have children and populate the earth! With abortion you are potentially taking away that opportunity to the child inside of you (if it is a girl). Honestly, I think is I was pro-choice I would definitely consider abortion if I was pregnant because I don't know about all the women here but I am absolute TERRIFIED of giving labor. 😂 I know that modern medicine has ways to make it not hurt as bad but the whole labor experience just does not sound fun at all and abortion could be a way of getting out of that.

Another point that I saw get brought up a lot was what if it is accidental and this made me think back to my lovely health class. Not to make this weird or anything but if you choose to be sexually active with someone you are already taking risks and you need to be aware that there may be consequences. It is just like things like drinking and driving. You make that choice and you know the potential risks which may or may not influence you choice, I understand if you were raped are abuse and that is a whole other conversation.

Anyways I am just saying that I see where Pro-choice people are coming from and even though I don't agree with you, I do still respect your decision! But, if you are going to choose to abort just keep in mind that you are taking away a life and that there may be better options. Also I like to think about it this way. How much could that child possibly change the world if I choose to give it life. If you abort you will never know. Also not trying to be mean about this lol.

❤️/Haylee 😜
Elise64
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3 years, 10 months ago by Elise64
I just want to say, I hate how people are so disrespectful to ppl with different opinions when they are being nice to them. Like there were these certain people who commented on a lot of patterns things like “I don’t agree with the message but I like the pattern so I will give it 5 stars” and this person said that they were passive aggressive and I guess they were and they didn’t have to write it on every pattern they didn’t agree with, but would you rather them be super disrespectful? 🤦‍♀️
OwObama
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3 years, 10 months ago by OwObama
Whenever this topic comes up for debate in a conversation, I just remember that whatever position someone has, that position was found from a place of love. It's difficult to want to be rude to someone as long as you remind yourself that their opinion is one stemming from compassion.

With pro-lifers, they're pro-life because they're concerned for the embryo and the future life it could create.

With pro-choicers, they're pro-choice because they have empathy for the person carrying the embryo. Either way, both parties are arguing out of empathy and love.

That said, I understand why pro-lifers would want to protect a potential child, but I'm very much pro-choice. I think someone said it earlier in the thread, ( @Ciao I think?? ) but having a heartbeat does not equal having a consciousness. Just like the next of kin for braindead people have the option to terminate the life, pregnant people should have that same option, ESPECIALLY because the baby would be residing inside their bodies, and doesn't have higher brain functions yet. It all comes back to the concept of bodily autonomy. If someone is using your body without your permission, you are allowed to take action against them to get them to stop. The embryo is using your uterus without your permission, so you should be allowed to take action to get it out of your body.
Think of this: corpses have access to bodily autonomy. Do you know how many life-saving organs can be taken from dead people? They won't need them. They aren't using them. It would save so many lives, ADULT lives, people who have lived and made memories and connections, relationships and impacts on the world. And yet, no one is allowed to salvage those organs unless the dead person wrote in their will that they want to donate them. If laws are made to restrict access to abortion, literal corpses will have more bodily autonomy than living, breathing people. That's really messed up.

Whether or not there will be assured medical complications, pregnancy is a very long and very draining experience, emotionally, mentally, and physically. It is not a walk in the park. It's not a minor thing to carry a child you don't want or plan to keep. Forcing people to carry babies on the idea that 'you had sex and you knew the risks' is unfair. It makes being pregnant a punishment. It makes the CHILD a punishment. Someone could take all the precautions and still get pregnant, and even though they did all they could to prevent a pregnancy, they would still be punished simply for having sex in the first place. The only purpose of intercourse isn't to make a child, it's for the physical and emotional intimacy with a partner, or just for pleasure! Sometimes pregnancies just happen, and it's no one's fault; but people shouldn't be made to carry a baby to term as backlash for having sex with someone.

^^ sorry that was kind of long, this is something I'm passionate about.
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3 years, 10 months ago by indaco
@OwObama I think I am platonically in love with you ✨✨✨✨✨✨✨
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3 years, 10 months ago by riley_fxX
@OwObama periott 🤍
YouMatter
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YouMatter
3 years, 10 months ago by YouMatter
I think everyone's opinion matters but I am pro life all the way. I think just tell them how you feel, and if they start hating and being rude, ignore them. If they can't handle a conversation like a mature human, they are not worth the time. 👍
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