Best starts for bracelets.
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LunaHorse
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LunaHorse
4 years ago by LunaHorse
What’s the best start for a normal bracelet such as pattern #21853 ( penguins ). ? I’ve been trying sloped start but it always goes wonky and pattern looks out of shape ? I’ve tried just a loop then start the pattern but the strings get in a muddle esp if lots of same colour. I’m stuck with what to try.
LunaHorse
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LunaHorse
4 years ago by LunaHorse
Correction pattern #21583
lizzie645
Bracelet King
lizzie645
4 years ago by lizzie645
Have you tried the teardrop loop yet? Masha knots has a tutorial on that on youtube 🙂 Im not sure if by loop you mean just tying the string or the teardrop loop? If you haven't tried it yet it might be worth a shot 😉
LunaHorse
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LunaHorse
4 years ago by LunaHorse
Yes it’s the teardrop loop that I use, then I do the sloped start after that. But what other starts could I do after the teardrop loop ?!
lizzie645
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lizzie645
4 years ago by lizzie645
You might try laying them flat and doing the larks head knot around a base string and that way you can start with a flat surface and then when you want to tie that off tie the base string in a loop so that way you have a loop to connect your bracelet. I really hope this makes sense its kinda confusing 😂 You can look up different ways to start a friendship bracelet and it should pop up as a photo from pinterest if you need a visual. 🙂
LunaHorse
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LunaHorse
4 years ago by LunaHorse
Thanks, I can see what you mean. Looks complicated but easy when you know how. I learn best by watching videos , so going to have a look on youtube as would need to work out how to get the strings to lay in order as same colour doesn’t lay next to each other if you get me. Still got lots to learn.
halokiwi
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halokiwi
4 years ago by halokiwi
Shaped starts should not distort the pattern. I think the reason might potentially be that you haven't practiced them a lot yet or that you might be making a mistake somewhere. If you describe your knotting process with more detail I might be able to figure out where the issue is.

If you do a triangle start I'd recommend knot 5 in row 13 as the tip so you don't have any weirdly cut of penguins. For the end I'd recommend knot 5 in row 1.

Alternatively you could start in a straight row without any fancy start. Just make sure you tape the strings down or clip them down in a way that they are laying next to each other and are not crammed up. You can still do a triangle end there in the end, you just can't do a loop if you do it last.
halokiwi
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halokiwi
4 years ago by halokiwi
The pattern is a normal pattern, not an alpha, right?

Since you seem to be a visual learner you could also check out this tutorial I wrote that has some pictures https://www.braceletbook.com/tutorials/98_how-to-make-triangle-ends/
LunaHorse
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LunaHorse
4 years ago by LunaHorse
I’ve been doing the teardrop look ( learnt from masha knots ) and then the slop start ( that alex innovations does ) with the strings in the right order that I need to follow the pattern. I am not up the doing the triangle start as yet , as not been doing this type of pattern that long. So
LunaHorse
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LunaHorse
4 years ago by LunaHorse
guess I need more practice. I am good with segment style knotting. Just row by row patterns I am not as good at. Esp when it’s a mix with all the knots like FB BF F and B. Hope that’s makes sense.
halokiwi
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halokiwi
4 years ago by halokiwi
Oh, ok, I think sloped starts should also work well. Sloped starts are basically half triangle starts so if you know how to do a sloped start you basically know how to do a triangle end.

For the tip of the sloped start I'd recommend the first knot of row 9.

Th only problem you might get with a sloped start is that you might be pulling the bracelet to the side while knotting because it is not really a balanced start.
halokiwi
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halokiwi
4 years ago by halokiwi
Many knots in the pattern can be replaced with f or b knots btw because they are between two strings of the same colour.

So the problem isn't really the start but knottin this pattern in general?
LunaHorse
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LunaHorse
4 years ago by LunaHorse
Yes that’s what I am think I’m doing that not fully getting a balanced start when using the sloped start.
LunaHorse
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LunaHorse
4 years ago by LunaHorse
It’s these type of patterns I seem to mess up , ones that I a picture such as penguins trees snowmen etc.
halokiwi
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halokiwi
4 years ago by halokiwi
Yeah, these patterns tend do be a little more complicated.
LunaHorse
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LunaHorse
4 years ago by LunaHorse
The more strings the messy it gets. My knotting isn’t up to standard. Just need to work out how to get my knotting neat when doing these style of patterns.
Crafty_K
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Crafty_K
4 years ago by Crafty_K
Hi @LunaHorse!
I think crimp ends would probably be a super good choice, because with 1-2-1-2 patterns, there usually is not a shape for the start, but you could still cut one out of the pattern to start the bracelet if you do want a shaped start. With crimp ends, you don't need a shaped start, just a straight line where the patterns start. I really hope this helps! 😄
- @Crafty_K
LunaHorse
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LunaHorse
4 years ago by LunaHorse
@Crafty_K How would I go about getting a straight line at the start ? Not heard of crimp ends before, so will have to look that up.
Crafty_K
Bracelet King
Crafty_K
4 years ago by Crafty_K
You can start it by doing row-by-row. There are two different types of knotting, which include segment knotting, and the row-by-row method. The row-by-row, you will have to look at the top of the normal pattern, and find a straight line of knots going straight across, if that makes sense. 😄 So you will basically be making pairs with your strings and knotting in rows.
Crafty_K
Bracelet King
Crafty_K
4 years ago by Crafty_K
If you do not like the row-by-row, then I would suggest only doing one row of the method, and then continue on with segment knotting for the rest of the bracelet, until you reach the end, whereas you will make sure the last part is straight, and maybe do the row-by-row there to make sure it is straight. Looking at the pattern and making sure the same colors and the same knots match in the straight line at the very end will help you fit the crimp ends on perfectly. 👍
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