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riley_fxX
riley_fxX
3 years, 7 months ago by riley_fxX
@LuvMyDucks after black lives tho 😊
lindypanda
lindypanda
3 years, 7 months ago by lindypanda
Hey @minecraft3! Thanks for taking some time to reflect!

So sounds like you and I had very similar US history curriculum; cool, that's pretty standard across the US (but you're probably are getting taught about 9/11 in school, vs that being part of my living history). So I say there's gaps in how US history is taught because a) it's missing information on how social justice laws played out in the real world, b) you're missing viewpoints and history from POC, and c) social justice isn't taught much after the Civil Rights Movement (so already there's at least 50 years of social justice history missing). Ex: Asian-American history in schools is practically non-existent.

I mention that because again, as a sentence, everyone's lives are important. BUT, the context of how and when it's said is important too. With "Black Lives Matter" and "Stop Asian Hate", they're bringing up issues that has been affecting those groups that happened due to inequalities that the government and society hasn't addressed or has negatively impacted. The slogan "all lives matters" that rose up as a response leads to inaction on learning the history and finding ways to fix the problems on an individual and community level to fix issues POC face (because let's face it, no one is perfect, nor is the government). Through that inaction, it means that there is acceptance on the racial inequality that exists, which implicitly implies that racism is okay.

It's a long explanation, but if you want, happy to continue this and move the conversation to messages. Hope this chat gave you some food for thought! 🙂
LuvMyDucks
LuvMyDucks
3 years, 7 months ago by LuvMyDucks
@Swiftie_13 nonono! I was saying All Lives Matter. And they do!
Swiftie_13
Swiftie_13
3 years, 7 months ago by Swiftie_13
@LuvMyDucks if you mean Asian lives matter you should say stop Asian hate or protect Asian lives because saying alm withdraws from BLM
DirtyHands
DirtyHands
3 years, 7 months ago by DirtyHands
@minecraft3 I don't think its quite "the same thing, but less specific". I think you might be misinterpreting what it really means. Black Lives Matter is saying that black lives matter just as much as everyone else. Basically saying that they matter too. Right now in the US black lives are undervalued, and we need to realize the disparity and bring an end to it.
LuvMyDucks
LuvMyDucks
3 years, 7 months ago by LuvMyDucks
ALM! cute pattern ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
ananya123
ananya123
3 years, 7 months ago by ananya123
@minecraft3 Don't come at me for this. But Asians and Blacks are the ones who have been going through very difficult times right now. And saying "basically saying the same thing, just less specific." is not really the same. 🙁
lana_19
lana_19
3 years, 7 months ago by lana_19
@minecraft3 you are coming on a pattern which has become a sensitive topic and is very near to peoples hearts, and just honestly being racist, please don’t come on every political/race pattern and say something negative; it won’t get you anywhere ❤️
minecraft3
minecraft3
3 years, 7 months ago by minecraft3
@lana_19 The fact that you believe in stopping hate and then call people disgusting is kind of hypocritical. lets stop all hate! ❤️ ❤️
lana_19
lana_19
3 years, 7 months ago by lana_19
@minecraft3 the fact that you had to comment something controversial on a “STOP HATE” pattern is disgusting.
lana_19
lana_19
3 years, 7 months ago by lana_19
❤️ ❤️ ❤️
gymnast_11
gymnast_11
3 years, 7 months ago by gymnast_11
Great explanation @lindypanda 👍🏾
gymnast_11
gymnast_11
3 years, 7 months ago by gymnast_11
This is such a good pattern 🤯🤩
minecraft3
minecraft3
3 years, 7 months ago by minecraft3
@lindypanda okay i get that, but then there shouldn't be a problem with saying all lives matter. Like some people lose their jobs (sometimes even their life) over saying all lives matter, and i don't think that's okay because it's basically saying the same thing, just less specific.

And also i don't know where you go to school, but at my school in my history class we spent more time learning about women rights and the civil rights movement then WW1, WW2, and the vietnam war. And even then when we were learning about WW2 we covered women's roles in the war way more than things like the treaty of Versailles. I don't know it may have just been my school, have a good day 👍
loverknots
loverknots
3 years, 7 months ago by loverknots
Love this !!!! 🥰🥰🥰
pastelstan
pastelstan
3 years, 7 months ago by pastelstan
❤️ ❤️ ❤️
_Theatre_
_Theatre_
3 years, 7 months ago by _Theatre_
❤️ stop aisan hate yall amazing pattern ❤️
swimmer_
swimmer_
3 years, 7 months ago by swimmer_
@lindypanda couldn't be more well explained (:
lindypanda
lindypanda
3 years, 7 months ago by lindypanda
Thank you for creating a pattern for this issue! Been having difficulties coming up with my own; glad you were able to figure one out! ❤️ ❤️
lindypanda
lindypanda
3 years, 7 months ago by lindypanda
@minecraft3 So the problem with "all lives matter" as a statement is that it doesn't address the specific issues that are hurting a marginalized group. Saying "Black Lives Matters" and "Stop Asian Hate" has never meant to take away from issues other people; these are statements that are meant to highlight issues that have been happening in Black and Asian communities for years, decades and centuries even. It is just now that if you haven't been aware of the issues before, you're learning about them now, as they're part of social justice history that isn't taught well in school.