@giraffe34 well this pattern is a shaped normal pattern. if you’re looking for more patterns like these check out my profile because i have created lot of shaped normal patterns. but 1,2,1,2 patterns (normal patterns with mostly/only fb or bf knots) to me look more like alphas because they are often used to make a specific picture. i don’t have any specific recommendations for 1,2,1,2 patterns because i’ve never made one before. but hey alphas are not that bad for the most part. i would recommend watching and following masha knots’s youtube tutorials on how to make alpha patterns 🙂